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Luzes, P. (1974). A Discussion of the Paper by Nicole Berry-Bertrand on 'From Fantasy to Reality in the Transference'. Int. J. Psycho-Anal., 55:479-481.

(1974). International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 55:479-481

A Discussion of the Paper by Nicole Berry-Bertrand on 'From Fantasy to Reality in the Transference' Related Papers

Pedro Luzes

We should all be grateful to Mme Berry for tackling in her paper some basic problems of the transference. I cannot agree with all her concepts concerning the transference, but the inclusion of brief clinical material makes me feel on a more familiar ground.

I should like to comment on three points in Mme Berry's paper: (a) theoretical aspects of her paper; (b) problems of transference interpretation; (c) clinical observations chosen to illustrate her concepts.

As to the more theoretical aspects of the paper, Mme Berry seems to consider it essential that in analysis the patient should come to know something of the analyst as a real person. She mentions family life, habits and tastes. The patient will go from a perception of the analyst based only on projections to a knowledge of the human traits of the analyst and an understanding of the analyst's world.

I think that such factors exert their influence in analysis. But I do not think that their role in analysis should be given as much emphasis as Mme Berry does. More important than the analyst introducing himself to the patient, it is to introduce the patient to himself. The interpretation of transference is primarily aimed at self-knowledge and only secondarily at correcting a distorted perception of the analyst.

Mme Berry seems implicitly to adopt the thesis that it is more important to relive and repeat in a different setting, with a different person, rather than to remember through verbal communication and acquire insight.

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