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(2000). Open Discussion Panelists and Audience Morning Session. J. Clin. Psychoanal., 9(4):466-481.

(2000). Journal of Clinical Psychoanalysis, 9(4):466-481

Open Discussion Panelists and Audience Morning Session

Dr. Carl Kleban (Moderator)

First, Dr. Furer has some comments and then I am going to ask Dr. Epstein to start off the intrapanel discussion by responding to some of the things that have been said to her about her technique and her case.

Dr. Furer

I should explain that the panelists received a very long protocol by Dr. Epstein which included a great deal more than she presented today. Dr. Orgel presented a beautiful set of ideas based on that very detailed protocol. Dr. Epstein will remember how often we talked about the two related tracks, the oedipal track and the preoedipal track. Our perspective always included the past-in-the-present. Many of the issues Dr. Orgel brought up were in fact covered during the many years of the analysis. But what Dr. Epstein prepared for today was a digest, which at my request was focused on the interactive and intersubjective aspects of the analytic process. I did wish to push that particular envelope in order to highlight this cutting edge issue.

With reference to Dr. Greenberg's comments, about the effect of the parents' problems, it wasn't emphasized in this presentation, but Kathy secretly felt herself to be a morally superior person because of her ethical principles. A genetic reconstruction of that attitude, which Dr. Greenberg perhaps might accept, would certainly involve the loose morals—the hypocrisy if you will—of her own parents. A further inference, which is certainly justifiable, is that the parents had a sexual interest in their children, including this particular patient, and this interest may partly account for the siblings' extensive

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